Have owned and shot most of them. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. 6) IO Hellcat II (2.9 stars 0.6, 32 votes). Still, if youre looking for a all purpose value like pistol then look no further (hesk Ive seen them for $200 NIB out the doorAnd yes, Kel-Tec got copied yet again! The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. This article was total BS. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Ive got a CPX-2 and a Hellcat. Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Its definitely not perfect but it is far from the worst gun Ive owned. You can buy 1911s now. I own a SCCY CPX-2. This is the J-Frame for the masses. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. As a long, and I do mean long time P3AT owner, you must be one of those anti Keltec trolls that hated them from the start. They have gotten great reviews and by the serial numbers and manufacture dates on the 2 guns, their sales have gone up 4x but the QC has suffered greatly. You fire as soon as you pull and have aimed. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. Most often the issue is people dry firing, or using hollowpoints. But despite those advantages, .380 pocket pistols have also been plagued by a number of downsides. In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. So the recoil is stout. Does this guy have any gun expertise? I just cant see myself ever paying for a gun called SuCCY! And we have to like it enough to carry it. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). Guess what? Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. When I dress up, the P380 is the best answer to the pocket-carry problem. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. I have several friends who own Picos and swear by them. Very very inconsistent across the board for everything they make to not be considered really bad. The only guns to get near a 100 votes are the Beretta and the SCCY. The trigger seem to be the trouble people have with it. Trash. There are two primary uses for the LCP II: concealed carry and/or as a back-up pistol. Oh wow I finally got their awful website to workP3at is #1! Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. She shot both, along with a used Beretta .380, and chose the Sig despite the price being just about double at the time. Im thinking about getting a second one to keep in my truck or with my bow hunting gear. My old PPK/s doesnt like Blazer alum. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. check the ammo?? The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. The gun works. I some what question these results mainly because I own one of the guns on this list. SCCY CPX-2 is a very good gun. Remarkable build quality. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. I am surprised high point 380 & 9mm werent included in your list. Not any more fun to shoot, but at least I dont need a damned pencil to take spent brass out of it. From what I have heard the folks at SCCY provide great customer service. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. Mine also runs well, and they feel really well made. He says it is a blunder. It shot pretty well overall, but the trigger sucked. Never had a malfunction, easy to shoot, accurate, and good looking whats not to like? Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Its not. The .380 ACP is not a powerhouse, but its often enough. And the Pico will run like a sewing machine. A lot of those people who diss these guns are those that run hollowpoints or high pressure rounds. I agree, the P3AT is my go to light carry gun. It is designed as a personal defense arm not a target pistol or a plunker. Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Any kind of ammo. And BTW, the gunsgunsguns link doesnt work. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock You should consider using a Bayesian average for this situation. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. I liked the gun otherwise, but the awful trigger was a total deal breaker for me. BUT! Everything they make are just wrought with problems. Even though its not made anymore, Ive been interested in trying out a Taurus PT638 if I ever ran across one for a reasonable price, anyone have any experience with one? M&P Shield EZ .380 6. You get two shots, a single-action-only I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. The one I had was utter shit. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. It went on to launch a revolution of micro .380 handguns. Arguably one of the best and most popular pocket pistols, the pf9, was not on the spreadsheet. I own some pretty toys and more expensive carry guns but for everyday carry i choose between my CPX 2 and S&W 442 and feel just as confident with either. OMG! . It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. Did it require a break in, a fluff & buff, a whole plethora of different ammo to get my approval? Ive seen tons of positive reviews of the CPX2. The Pico is top shelf. He says the trigger is horrible? Stainless steel throughout the gun. Also, I dont consider the CPX-2 to be a pocket pistol, nor should it be compared to some of the little single stack fluff-pieces the articles author referenced. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. A 380 is about as wide as a 9mm. However it is about 1/2 as powerful, 1/2 the weight and velocity. For a very long time 9mm was considered the rock The sccy is very similar. That being said, the LCP II can also be carried IWB or in an ankle holster just as easily as it could be carried in a pocket. Given all that, wouldnt it be nice to know which pocket guns you can rule out right off the bat? You do not have one clue about what you are talking about. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". This is NOT a target gun. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. just kidding 32,490 views Aug 21, 2021 1.1K Dislike Share nutnfancy 852K subscribers Another ranting reviewoh man we do not like Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. Hey, look Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. Hellcat 380. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. Its not that the gun is too small, its that the trigger is much too close to the tiny grip. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. I was also surprised to find the CM40 rated so poorly. Have you put more than a box through it? Im about to order some more. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. Small, accurate and reliable. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. It therefore must perform when called upon. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Get a Kahr CW380 or P380 and just be done with it cause they really dont get much better for pocket 380 carry IMO. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. Combined with the teflon-like nickle finish and the worlds stiffest recoil spring, its almost impossible to rack. I also feel the cw380 has very minimal recoil vs other small 380s in its same size. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. My Cpx 2 is not 100% reliable, but I did not expect it to be for $250. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. Note to self, Get to the range! Ruger LCR in 38 spcl +P. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. .40 maybe too big for a leetle sub-compact pistol. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. A 9mm shouldnt be slower than a .45. I have not had to use them as my SCCY has functioned perfectly so far. Do you really know anything about pocket guns? But do not tell me the Kahr is a better gun. CM40 is my summe4 carry. I had a CPX-2, functionality and reliability i couldnt complain about. Both shoot about the same as far as low recoil. How many times does anyone complain about a bad trigger in a self defense situation? I can do it blind folded. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. Fan boys gotta fan boy, and critics gotta criticize. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. The list is pretty laughable, though, because drawing conclusions from such a tiny sample of unvetted ratings is deeply, deeply flawed.

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